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Added new option / preference #24

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@flyankur flyankur commented Apr 4, 2013

Added new option to show lists sorted in alphabetical order. Very useful when a user has a big number of lists - makes it easier to find a list when adding a new url.

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d2s commented Apr 5, 2013

Haven't checked the code but this would be an awesome little addition to the bookmarking extension.

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I'm not really sure if this is needed as users will always have the same order for their lists: they can be sorted manually and you have the same structure on the site and on the extension.

I'm hesitant on adding this to distribution version as we're going to rebuild the extension from the ground up soon anyways. That will most likely feature a type to search style list filtering.

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flyankur commented Apr 5, 2013

I agree on the point that if lists have the same order on extension as on kippt.com - would help user experience, though I beg to differ with current ( default ) order of lists

In my particular experience - After using kippt for almost everything ( bookmarks, Personal & Team research, read later, todo lists, etc ) I have 58 -
My lists on kippt - screenshot

There are 2 different user experiences I observed -

On kippt.com ( Consumption )

  • Major part of experience is reading clips, & minor part of experience is searching - which is 2 part again
    1. search using "Search clips" - easy
    2. search using "My lists" - difficult when you have 58 lists.
  • A list ( name ) is basically a Context / Purpose, and possible ways list can be show are :
    1. In order they were added ( default & only option ) - Makes it difficult to find when a user has 58 lists
    2. In Alphabetical order - my experience was much better as you are just scanning by name, which is easier to locate when they are in this order.
    3. In Order of number of clips a list has - most active list.
  • It is very difficult to Manually re-order my list on kippt.com with so many lists. So may be kippt.com should also have option to re-order list.

On kippt-chrome extension ( Addition )

  • The only (99%) experience is to find a list and add a clip - and finding a particular list from 58 has been big pain.

I have no clue if other people using kippt chrome extension actually have so many list or if the face they same problem while adding new clip from chrome extension. So, can't say if this feature woud do as much value addition to other as it has done to me. May be if we could this to distribution and add analytics :)

@jorde - you would definitely have better idea - Adding this to distribution is your call.

Also - I am sure new Chrome extension would cater to these problem. "type to search style list filtering" should solve it to some extent. Please let me know if I can help or contribute in anyways.

PS - This is a Good Article by Nielsen Norman Group which goes beyond Alphabetical sort - Alphabetical Sorting Must (Mostly) Die - Ordinal sequences, logical structuring, time lines, or prioritization by importance or frequency are usually better than A-Z listings for presenting options to users.

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d2s commented Apr 5, 2013

Search type filtering would be fine, but even there is need for some sort of "prioritization by frequency" –type of thing.

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vaidik commented Apr 6, 2013

I have faced this problem myself as I also have about 30-40 different lists. And when the number of items in your lists grow, its better to have them in alphabetical order (like apps in stock Android). However, some may beg to differ. Its a matter of opinion at the end of the day.

Can't this feature be optional? Something like Order of lists with options like:

  • manual
  • alphabetical
  • descending by number of clips
  • descending by number of views (if that is something Kippt tracks)

Not sure, just an idea.

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