Midi file import and quantification.

[gtr3qq]

I know these are two very different thing, midi and tracker music.
But it would be a nice to have.
Alternatively, maybe support OpenMPT （.mpt）files and let OpenMPT do it for they've already got it.
But quantification is going to be a horrible mess if not done properly, you end up with tons of EDxx and nothing useful.

[gtr3qq]

As if it can only be used as such.
I don't know what happen to you, and why you need to be so abrasive.

[bryc]

What if it's my own music stored in MIDI files? What if I want to move my composition from Furnace to FL Studio, and vice versa? MIDI is the obvious interchange format. It's the best way to do it.

Your response is completely unreasonable and antagonistic. Just because you believe the only way should be the hard way, doesn't mean it's right to not consider more options.

I have a YM2151 track I did in a DAW using VOPM. I'd be curious how it could sound in Furnace. I could convert my channels strictly to monophonic and export each channel as MIDI. Furnace could read and import it. Quantization shouldn't even be a problem because my MIDI sequences already use tracker steps. It would save me a lot of work of tedious back-and-forth note-inserting and let me focus on sound design. Not all songs are made from scratch in Furnace, some will be covers or recreations of existing songs. An interchange format can be useful.

[tildearrow]

Respect all users and developers. Don't make chaos.

[gtr3qq]

No, I just want to use OpenMPT midi out my things then load it into Furnace.
Hence why add support for OpenMPT is better.

[gtr3qq]

That's what I've BEEN doing. Do you know how time-consuming it is?
Do I have to reinventing the wheel?

[korbosoft]

besides, midi slapping is pretty hard to do with limited channels, so that is out of the question

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[Toonlink8101]

While I wouldn't say that MIDI import is a bad idea, depending on what you want to do, you can currently get the resemblance of MIDI import by using external resources.

Here's what you do:

1. Import the MIDI into OpenMPT
2. Convert the file into a MOD file. Doing this does have some loss, namely with volumes, but everything else should still be there.
3. Import the MOD into Furnace. Furnace does have support for this
4. Profit

The main downsides to this are that you will likely have to pair down the number of tracks to fit whatever chip you want to work with, as the default will give you several Amigas. Also, since the volume data is lost, you will have to reenter whatever is missing.

The only time I have ever used this method was when trying to import an MP3->MIDI conversion into Furnace to see if I could recreate the effect found in this video (it didn't really work).

While there's nothing inherently wrong with importing a MIDI file, MIDI slapping is bad and often leads to poorer quality in your work. While transcribing might seem slower, it ends up helping you in the long run.

Personally, I would even recommend using a MIDI file as a reference and transcribing the MIDI file into your song instead of just importing it. That way you can more easily figure out what note is what, but you still have to make the decision of where it goes in the song and how it works with everything else. This is especially necessary with Chiptune since you usually don't have that many channels to work with.

Sidenote: don't think of transcribing as reinventing the wheel. The wheel is already in front of you. Transcribing is like deconstructing the wheel and putting it back together again to figure out how it works. It's like reverse engineering

[gtr3qq]

...
What
A
Scam!
bruh...

[tildearrow]

How is that a scam? The default setting is Ctrl-drag in order to prevent accidental dragging.

[IceDragonDee]

A scam implies you're being cheated out of your money. Furnace is free. :V

[gtr3qq]

....I sorry for my verbal expressions. Think it as The F***. The WOW you'll get after finding out you just did noting.
But still, I find it odd. I guess it just me small brain got tamed by every other trackers.
Would it be possible to default it to the way everyone else default to? For any possible future confusion?

[gtr3qq]

A scam implies you're being cheated out of your money. Furnace is free. :V

You're making it up. None of these words I'd ever typed.

[gtr3qq]

Respect all users and developers. Don't make chaos.

I apologize for my chose of words. Sorry.
I didn't even want to comment on this matter any further at all.
The intention was to show support for bryc. But I now see I went too far.

[MechPala]

As someone who composes and transcribes songs first in FL Studio before typing them out to trackers, midi importing would be a huge time saver.