Py Quality

[RedRafe]

Mod source

Factorio Mod Portal

Operating system

GNU/Linux

What kind of issue is this?

• Compatibility
• Locale (names, descriptions, unknown keys)
• Graphical
• Crash
• Progression
• Balance
• Pypostprocessing failure
• Other

What is the problem?

I know Quality is nowhere near meant to be supported in Py at the moment, so just take this report just as a "FYI" :) We run Quality with PyShort (PyFE+PyInd+PyCoal), and this is what we found:

Progression bug

1. quality-module has hidden tech modules as prereq, so it's impossible to be researched

Balance feedback

Most machines having only 1 module slot makes quality products even harder to get.

We ended up just grinding a few better quality chips for mudules, but that was it. Recycler was used properly in the map, but a lot of crazy stuff could go through it if one really wants to exploit it (ie. getting rare coke out of normal ash).

1 module per machine I think could be fine if Q modules get buffed a bit, but then 2 further issue arise:

• ideally getting a few quality machines would benefit the base. Reality is, the buff from next-quality machine is so irrelevant compared to beaconing/productivity the machine, that it feels useless.
  This could also be even more irrelevant in full py, by getting Mk2-3-4 machines which are definitely better than just quality Mk1.
• quality beacons/quality modules could be the most effective way to get value out of quality stuff. This is fine with speed, however, even stronger prod modules with quality could tip off the balance of py in some places.

So yeah :) Overall, quality doesnt play any good or bad role. It just sits in the corner. Maybe something cool could be done with quality science packs / machines /modules, but otherwise, it would only become a death trap to spam quality all over the base. Maybe something for PyHM ;)

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[oorzkws]

Props for pulling the issue template into a discussion. I think the progression part is worth a quick fix once auto tech is back running

You mention recycler: are you running with full space-age?

[RedRafe]

No, it was just Py + Quality (+ Elev rails)