Patch FX-chain view by category #55
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Here's the cat-view for G5n standard patches (added the column with a defined chain-length) G5n allows up to 9 effects in the chain and supports expression pedal Curiously, there are quite a few compact patches -- those that use no more than 5 effects in the chain; well, there are even 4-chains (with pedal). |
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Cat-view chain for B3n patches (supports up to 7 effects in a chain). Most of these patches begin with One patch The longest is the |
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For comparison, the cat-chains for B1 FOUR (up to 5 effects). Curiously, all the patches show the defined chain-length 5, even though some of the actual chains are shorter. Some patches eponymous with B3n differ just in the absent trailing |
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I wonder if anyone has the A1/A1X FOUR standard patches? I'd be curious to classify those too. |
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I have a GCE-3 and in theory could emulate the A1Four to save them off... however I am travelling for the next week. A simple script could grab the patches. You could try asking @shooking |
Save them off where? Firmware or the Guitar Lab? The GCE-3 fw contains only some Guitar patches (see below), apparently some rehash of G5n/G3n patches. |
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Ok, figured it out. Below is the cat-view for A1 FOUR (supports up to 5 chained effects). Here too, all patches explicitly set to 5-chain length, even though some chains are shorter. Most of the patches begin with There's a triple-filtered |
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I generate the JSON for Fx and patch via this program. https://github.com/shooking/ZoomPedalFun/blob/main/python/b1xfour001.py As u said, the G5n can add a looper or rhythm- so far I model this as a skeleton zd2 - which seems to be how Zoom do it. I seem to recall it is possible to get 7 fx in a g1xfour. I think sysex 44 gives max fx and patch bank layout. Recall fx have a slot width. Looks like 5 but is 7 wide. |
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Here's the cat-view for G11 standard patches (can chain up to 10 effects, also supports IR), it's v2.00, (001-240 is v1.00): What's peculiar is that the patches reference IR modules (category: For G11 in particular, there's an official doc which lists all modules used per patch Apparently, one could even chain multiple IR modules, e.g. There were a couple of crazily long chains in v1.00: |
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Here's a list of most frequently used effects across the standard G5n patches (all 125), sorted by category then descending by usage count. Unsurprisingly, the most used effect module is ZNR (not counting the Volume pedal). Two runner ups are AMP The most used DRV The second most used AMP The second most used CAB In modulation category MOD Not much surprise with delays -- DLY In reverbs (the most populated group in this ranking), the leadership is less obvious, generally, No effect in SFX category was popular enough across the standard patches to make it over 5 count-cutoff. All this does not mean that the other effects are not good, it just shows the preferences of the Zoom patch designers or marketers of the G5n. Also, this maybe skewed by initial availability of the effect modules, some of which at the G5n launch were not yet fully ported from ZDL format of the preceding models. These findings transpose to G1 FOUR to some extent (as it has much fewer patches in general). |
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The most frequently used effects across the B3n standard patches (75). Similarly, B3n denotes the B3n variant (as opposed to respective B1 FOUR variant). The preferences are harder to define in case of the Bass patches. Four most frequently used effect modules are:
Only two drives narrowly made it to the list: DRV In addition to BMAN100, a few more AMPs are almost as equally "popular" Out of cabinets, only two made it to the list: CAB In modulation category, Bass Finally, These findings transpose mostly onto B1 FOUR patches (these make frequent use of FLT |
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Finally, in Acoustic set of A1 FOUR patches it's harder to spot the preferences, as the number of patches is much smaller (40) and about half of them are MDL-specific (acoustic guitar model), so the counts are much smaller. Two most frequently used effects are REV In filter category it's EQ effects, FLT Most used modulation is MOD Delays are obviously "popular" ( Out of reverbs it's Of course, such ranking says nothing about the actual models, which are the "beef" of the acoustic patches. Well, hopefully it says something about the "sauce". |
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Not an issue, just sharing some findings.
Out of curiosity, I listed the G1 FOUR standard patches to show which types/categories of effects are being chained in a patch.
Interestingly,
35.PadGuitarstands out with itsDYN:DYN:MOD:DLY:DLYdouble-delay chain. Also, a few patches insert some effects betweenAMPandCAB(e.g.11.ZEP 1959,40.Lead BGNand49.Rhapsody, which otherwise chained together.For the most part
DRVorDYNare first modules in chain, then feeding intoAMP:CABbut there is some variety with that.I guess, G5n patches show even more variety in chaining (could it insert even looper modules?).
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