libperl in Perlbrew

[calbo79]

If I've posted this in the wrong place please accept my apologies and let me know where I should put it..

I've been working on moving some software from RHEL 7 to Ubuntu 22.04.

I utilize Perlbrew and when I built the new 5.36.0 everything seemed normal until I started working on compiling mod_perl for my apache servers. I hit an error:

/usr/bin/ld: /opt/perl5/perls/perl-5.36.0t/lib/5.36.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.a(op.o): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against symbol `PL_hash_state_w' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
/usr/bin/ld: final link failed: bad value

I did the googling and realized I'm trying to do a 'make' against a library that is static versus a shared object library I think? How do I set perlbrew install options to make this a .so library in Ubuntu just like it is in my previous version in RHEL?
/perl5/perls/perl-5.26.2/lib/5.26.2/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so

Distributor ID: RedHatEnterpriseServer
Description: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.6 (Maipo)
Release: 7.6
Codename: Maipo

/perl5/perls/perl.5.36.0t/lib/5.36.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.a
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS
Release: 22.04
Codename: jammy

TIA!