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License? #1

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Mailaender opened this issue Jan 3, 2021 · 13 comments
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License? #1

Mailaender opened this issue Jan 3, 2021 · 13 comments

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@Mailaender
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Adventure_Game_Studio_Screenshot.png is currently labeled as proprietary. Is that true?

@morganwillcock
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The AGS software now uses Artistic License 2.0, so there is a copyright involved but it is an open source licence. Or are you talking about the demo game itself?

@Mailaender
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About the demo itself. It has no license file.

@ivan-mogilko
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ivan-mogilko commented Jan 3, 2021

I found something here in the source: https://github.com/adventuregamestudio/ags-demo-quest/blob/master/DemoQuest/GlobalScript.asc

// 4 License
// This module is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
// modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License
// as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1
// of the License, or any later version.

<... etc ...>

// Copyright (c) 2005 by Chris Jones

There are few other people's (c) there in other modules, some mention LGPL, others just say "(c) someone".

It's hard to tell about other resources. Older versions of AGS had this in the manual (back in the day when we still had Demo Quest distributed with the editor):

AGS Demo Game II Credits:

Written by Relight, cornjob, Chrille, Spyros and Dark Stalkey.
Additional material by Kairus.
Intro music by Mods.
Original backgrounds and main character were drawn by D281 at aol.com.

@ericoporto
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Adventure_Game_Studio_Screenshot.png is currently labeled as proprietary. Is that true?

Where does it says proprietary? Copyrighted and proprietary are different things.

@Mailaender
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Mailaender commented Jan 4, 2021

In the text box:

…qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Non-free content for more information.

which is not allowed in German Wikipedia where I intended to re-use that screenshot.

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ivan-mogilko commented Jan 4, 2021

I am not complete sure what the text "copyrighted computer software" means in this context. The screenshot is not of "Demo game" per se, it's a screenshot of AGS Editor which has "Demo Game" project (probably) opened.

Like I mentioned above we do not even distribute "Demo Game" with AGS anymore (it's outdated and have not been updated for many years).
Do you want to use that particular screenshot for some reason, or any good screenshot of AGS Editor will work?

As for the license, I have no idea what to do with its abscence, the authors of this demo game do not seem to be active in community. I could maybe try contacting Chris Jones about this to clarify the issue, but only if this really worth it.

@Mailaender
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Screenshots has the rules. Both the software has to be free/libre and the content shown in it. If you happen to know an open content game, I might just screenshot that instead.

@ericoporto
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In this page of the manual there's an interesting screenshot:

https://adventuregamestudio.github.io/ags-manual/acintro2.html

acintro2_04

The background is made by @selmiak and currently is shipped along the Editor with templates. Alternatively, by loading the editor with a new game created based one of the templates, I think should be fine.

@ivan-mogilko
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Actually, none of our game template sources has an explicit license file, which is an oversight.

The only template that clearly have a license file is "Tumbleweed", which is licensed under MIT. Except I don't know how MIT license deals with the graphics, as it mentions "software and documentation" only.

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If above does not work, this is a source of my unfinished game which art is released under Creative Commons:
https://github.com/ivan-mogilko/ags-camdemo
(project is for AGS 3.5.0)

@ivan-mogilko
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Here's the original project that was used as a base to create all of our current default game templates:
https://github.com/caesarcub/AGS-SCI-Template

It's licensed as CC BY 4.0: https://github.com/caesarcub/AGS-SCI-Template/blob/master/License.md

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@ivan-mogilko
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ivan-mogilko commented Jan 4, 2021

They have it in their source: https://github.com/dkrey/ags_tumbleweed/blob/52cc32665122b19246d146513b5692bf3e88357b/LICENSE

Maybe they forgot to add it to template package.
I guess no template creator was really bothered with this, as users traditionally assume that what comes with template is free to use.

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