Change default prefix to ;

[Dimenpsyonal]

Revival of #237. Feedback requested

Doing so makes it easier to use Adonis' commands, as on most major keyboards and computers, the : key requires the use of the shift button, whereas the ; key does not, thus making it easier for moderators and admins to access Adonis commands.

[ccuser44]

whereas the ; key does not,

This is not true

[ccuser44]

Changing this to a slash would make sense but changing to ; is just unnecessary and potentially harmful. Don't fix it if it's not broken. Also would concflict with other admins

[Dimenpsyonal]

Changing to ; makes sense!!! I have to press shift to get to : whereas I only have to tap a key to get ;

[WalkerOfBacon]

Also would concflict with other admins

I only see this becoming a problem if somebody is using multiple admin systems in one game (which in some cases make sense but other than that, no it doesn't)

[WalkerOfBacon]

also @Dimenpsyonal wasnt settings.DefaultTheme removed to prevent ppl from modifying it bc they dont read about what it actually does?

[Dimenpsyonal]

idk maybe

[WalkerOfBacon]

Also the most "harm" I see this doing is breaking existing aliases people have created (in which can easily be fixed on THEIR end) and just overall confusion

[WalkerOfBacon]

idk maybe

#1459 (comment)

[ccuser44]

I have to press shift

But most people in the world (excluding US+UK) have to press shift for both : and ; therefore the usefullness of the change is severy limited. Changing this would only lead to confusion. If you really need this for yourself change the settings prefix or alternatively add an alias via !client that is ;<command> = :<command>

If you had to change this to something else then you should use / but do NOT change this to ;

[convxors]

Would confuse long time Adonis users including myself. Maybe add a way for the user to change their own prefix via the userpanel

[WalkerOfBacon]

Would confuse long time Adonis users including myself. Maybe add a way for the user to change their own prefix via the userpanel

This exists already

[Dimenpsyonal]

Also the most "harm" I see this doing is breaking existing aliases people have created (in which can easily be fixed on THEIR end) and just overall confusion

also, this only changes the default prefix! people can still set the prefix to use :, this PR only changes the default prefix used on new loaders

[WalkerOfBacon]

also, this only changes the default prefix! people can still set the prefix to use :, this PR only changes the default prefix used on new loaders

Oh yeahhh

[PurpleCreativity]

Changing this to a slash would make sense but changing to ; is just unnecessary and potentially harmful. Don't fix it if it's not broken. Also would concflict with other admins

I have to press shift

But most people in the world (excluding US+UK) have to press shift for both : and ; therefore the usefullness of the change is severy limited. Changing this would only lead to confusion. If you really need this for yourself change the settings prefix or alternatively add an alias via !client that is ;<command> = :<command>

If you had to change this to something else then you should use / but do NOT change this to ;

Slash should be left alone as its for TextChatService commands (and for inbuilt roblox commands such as /emote and /console)

[PurpleCreativity]

I see no reason as to why not change it to ; as It's easier to press for MOST users on the internet.

Also the most "harm" I see this doing is breaking existing aliases people have created (in which can easily be fixed on THEIR end) and just overall confusion

also, this only changes the default prefix! people can still set the prefix to use :, this PR only changes the default prefix used on new loaders

Like mentioned here this wouldn't affect older games.

[PurpleCreativity]

Don't fix it if it's not broken.

Don't use horrible logic, this is how we get stuff like the adonis anticheat.

[8ch32bit]

Yall complaining about the default prefix when you can just change it in settings......

[ccuser44]

I see no reason as to why not change it to ; as It's easier to press for MOST users on the internet.

Most users of the internet are not in the anglosphere

[Dimenpsyonal]

Yeah but this isn't the internet at large... It's roblox

[Z3phrz]

If you really think this is a problem, why not just have a pop up for first time players that lets them pick which prefix to use

• Changing the default prefix for all new games will just confuse players that use Adonis a lot
• Have the default settings pop up for the game owner when they join the first time for people that struggle to edit the script
• Have a notification popup for first time players that they can click to bring up client settings
• When returning players join the game, just show them what the current prefix is in the join notification

This gets rid of confusion while still allowing players to easily modify the settings to what they prefer. This also doesn't force long term Adonis users to go into the settings after they are wondering why the : prefix isn't working for them

Another solution would be to give them a notification when using the default prefix that tells them the game uses a custom prefix

[convxors]

Also the most "harm" I see this doing is breaking existing aliases people have created (in which can easily be fixed on THEIR end) and just overall confusion

also, this only changes the default prefix! people can still set the prefix to use :, this PR only changes the default prefix used on new loaders

Ah right, I totally forgot about that

[PurpleCreativity]

I see no reason as to why not change it to ; as It's easier to press for MOST users on the internet.

Most users of the internet are not in the anglosphere

have you ever tried running commands like :re in the new roblox chat? because it's either impossible or really annoying to do as it autocompletes to some dumb emote

[Dimenpsyonal]

This is also true – using ; gets rid of the problem wherein Roblox thinks you're adding emotes

[WalkerOfBacon]

have you ever tried running commands like :re in the new roblox chat? because it's either impossible or really annoying to do as it autocompletes to some dumb emote

THIS >>>>

[ccuser44]

I see no reason as to why not change it to ; as It's easier to press for MOST users on the internet.

Most users of the internet are not in the anglosphere

have you ever tried running commands like :re in the new roblox chat? because it's either impossible or really annoying to do as it autocompletes to some dumb emote

That's an actual actually valid argument for changing the prefix. Unlike the "have to press shift key" if you can't press 2 keys at the same time then so.ethings realmy wrong.

Anyways there is still a way you can type commands in the new chat without it guessing an emote via appending a slash before it.
Like /:fly me and as a bonus you get autocompletion for all Afonis commands

[ccuser44]

In the future though (maybe in Adonis 2.9) we should transition to slash commands in a regular orefix comma ds

[GalacticInspired]

No.

[GalacticInspired]

This is also true – using ; gets rid of the problem wherein Roblox thinks you're adding emotes

The chat box is not a command line.

[Dimenpsyonal]

Then how come you can run commands in it huh buddy

[Dimenpsyonal]

And the results are in... 59% yes versus 41% no

[GalacticInspired]

This is not true, it’s 57% to 43%, which is bad ad there’s still MANY people that disagree clearly. the fact its not even above 60%

[ccuser44]

This is not true, it’s 57% to 43%, which is bad ad there’s still MANY
people that disagree clearly. the fact its not even above 60%

Exactly. The result isn't a simple supermajority therefor debate has to be had if merging could even happen.

[Dimenpsyonal]

yeesh sore losers

[LeoDeCow]

As a certified adonis code I would keep the prefix as is as it would cause great change to tthose as it was always the : i assume and the player can just change it to ; its not a good idea to force it. Or another alternative would be make all commands have same prefix so you wouldnt need to press ; twice

[PurpleCreativity]

As a certified adonis code I would keep the prefix as is as it would cause great change to tthose as it was always the : i assume and the player can just change it to ; its not a good idea to force it. Or another alternative would be make all commands have same prefix so you wouldnt need to press ; twice

i am also a certified adonis code i would like to make note of the fact that the poll won in the favour of the semicolon, and it would only affect new loaders

[PurpleCreativity]

@ccuser44 @GalacticInspired why exactly are you so against this can you specify all your points in one message

[WalkerOfBacon]

How about we just add both prefixes instead of deciding which prefix is superior (forgot who suggested it but yeah) and then have a setting that lets you add your own prefixes

[SuperCater]

How about we just add both prefixes instead of deciding which prefix is superior (forgot who suggested it but yeah) and then have a setting that lets you add your own prefixes

It was me

I suggested allowing commands to take a table of prefixes like so

local Command = {
Name = "test",
Prefix = {":", ";"},
}

So you could do :test or ;test

This fixes the issue of breaking old aliases and muscle memory while also gaining the benefits of using ; as the prefix. I think this is the best solution, it just requires a bit of work to make commands accept table prefixes. They also should accept just a string to not break old plugins and the such.

[Dimenpsyonal]

that's a pretty radical overhaul of the code base for a literally 2 character change

[LolloDev5123]

OP, consider keeping yourself safe

[Dimenpsyonal]

unless you people can come up with an actual, reasoned argument as to why : is empirically better than ; other than "but old users" then I may very well merge this

[PurpleCreativity]

unless you people can come up with an actual, reasoned argument as to why : is empirically better than ; other than "but old users" then I may very well merge this

@ccuser44 @GalacticInspired why exactly are you so against this can you specify all your points in one message

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